Gravity Glue Interviewed – Part III

Michael Grab

It’s got to feel great.

Yeah, plus I just love sharing the art with people because so many people are inspired by it. I find that to be pretty infinitely inspiring also. So there’s always this kind of feedback from sharing photos, people commenting and writing me emails about how it made them feel and stuff like that. It’s pretty amazing actually. That’s kind of a new thing in the last year or so. Last May there were about 700 likes or fans on my facebook page and now six months later there’s over 5000. It’s kind of an indicator that there’s a lot of people that like what I’m doing. That’s nice to know.

From all around the world, too…

Yeah, yeah all around the world. That’s another thing too, it has a totally global reach. There’s people all around the world that practice it. My theory is that it kind of tickles some kind of unconscious side of the human mind. I don’t know how or why, but just from how so many people like it around the world, regardless of culture or background or anything. It just has this kind of really unifying aspect. I can’t really explain it, but it’s pretty awesome.

What do you think is in there, in that part of the brain? What else do you think could be hiding out?

Maybe it’s like, saying “Hi!” to the pineal gland or something. I don’t know I have no idea! [laughs] I don’t know how or why or what happens but it just has this really weird, often really deep spiritual experience that it gives people to see them made and to see any ones like this [points to some prints on the wall] that are completely precarious.

Did you do these?

Ay, yep.

All of them?

Mm, hmm.

You travelled internationally this year, didn’t you?

Yeah I went to Costa Rica and Italy and Canada, that’s about it, so far.

How was your experience?

It was pretty awesome! Costa Rica was balancing rocks at this festival that they were having down there. They gave me a free pass to the festival. I bought a plane ticket and went down there and kind of did a guerilla rock installation type of thing. I had my own little battery/LEDs and all this stuff. That worked out, a lot of people really liked it, so they’re inviting me back this year again. Same with Sonic Bloom. I did that festival last year also in June and they want me back this year again. There was a balance show in Italy which was a really fun experience because it was all these people from around the world. All they do is balance rocks and they love it just as much as I do! It was just kind of fun being there with all these people and everyone is just being complete Rock Nerds and drinking wine and eating spaghetti. It was awesome! So yeah I really hope to keep doing that kind of stuff and being able to travel around and produce different shows and stuff.


Hell yeah.

Way cool.


That’s really exciting. This stuff is starting to snowball and its gathering it’s own momentum now.

Yeah kinda. Like I was thinking a couple weeks ago that my facebook page is almost big enough to where I can’t get rid of it even if I wanted to. I mean, I could. I could delete my account or whatever. Having so many people tuned into what I’m making really helps drive the whole process a lot. I obviously love doing it myself but it’s just really inspiring that so many people are tuned in to what I’m doing.

Tell me about some of the email you’ve been getting.

Ah, it’s just – mostly people that have actually seen me balancing, like at Boulder Creek Festival there were probably hundreds of people. It kind of created a traffic jam on the bridge too! Like they actually had to start herding people off the bridge because there were so many people fascinated with what I was doing.

Does that affect you at all when you’re balancing your rocks?

With people watching?

Yeah with people watching.

No I actually kind of thrive on it. I really love performing it.

You describe yourself as such an introverted…

Yeah yeah. It’s almost like that’s my social side of me, like performing this art almost. It’s a very inside type of activity but at the same time there’s all this energy in the air when I can feel people watching. That’s a pretty amazing feeling especially when you have to really meditate at the same time. It’s a good training course in distraction and staying focused and stuff. But I dunno, whenever there’s a lot of people watching I always get into this flow with my movements. It’s almost kind of a dance in a way.

Like a dance.

Yeah just like moving like a ninja through the water. It’s really… it’s funny. There was one instance at the Boulder Creek Path Festival this past year. A guy brought his brother down, and these guys must have been in their fifties or sixties or something and he was like – tons of people all over watching, all over the bridge – and this guy was like, “My brother thinks he’s god and he absolutely does not believe these are balanced like this. He thinks there’s bars or glue.” So he’s like, “Can you go out and make one for him to show him that it’s real?” Everyone’s watching, everyone heard the whole exchange. So I just go out and tap one in the middle and it just collapses. And everyone is like [gasp!] So I just like, get down, start making it again. Make it a tiny bit different. This is part of that whole “flow of energy of all these people watching” but I just did it really fast, like five minutes and let my hands go. I look back and the guy was just shaking his head in total disbelief. That was a pretty awesome experience! That kind of stuff happens a lot where people are like, they almost have this switch in their head flicked when they realize it’s not permanent – and it really is just balance. That’s a huge inspiration for me to keep doing it, because I really love destroying those limitations of possibility that a lot of people have. It’s not really obvious in most things, but you can really see it when people constantly stop by and they’re just in disbelief that the rocks can be standing that way. And they just have no conception in their mind at all of the possibility that it actually is balanced. All of them assume it’s permanent. I’ve also noticed differences in those kind of responses; I’ve studied sociology in college. This is kind of a tangent, but people always ask me if i’ve studied art, and I feel like i’ve been an artist my entire life I just haven’t formally studied it or whatever, and I like that, Because it’s not – it’s a little bit different from being fed through a formal education program about art. […] Oh yeah, so I studied a lot of sociology so I pay attention to the dynamics of people that are seeing my art and what they say and if there’s differences in gender or age.

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